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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

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I had been wondering what the split was of patrons in the various levels, since that would determine how well he was doing financially.

$10 or more a month gets you on the outro screen on his videos. There have been 145 on there and it stays fairly constant so that pretty much represents his core base. That means 213 are at $1 or $5 per month.

At very least that’s $213 per month. Adding in the $5 donors might bump it up to $500 or so.

Then you have the 145 who are pledging $10 or more and it’s imposible to know the breakdown beyond that.

It’s a safe bet he makes enough to live semi-comfortably in Zagreb. I say that because I have serious doubts about him paying child support, and if he does, it’s a token amount and Dijana doesn’t seem like one to push him for more. This was a guy who was bitching about paying for his daughter’s haircut, so he’s been reduced to pinching pennies. He’s also one who is prone to conceal his income to the court and claim poverty.

Welp! Par for the course when you marry a low-life narcissistic scumbag like Jabba the Hutt. All the best for her if she is pursuing this in court, but knowing the personality of both individuals, this is an amicable arrangement between the two and he’s paying her (if anything) as little as he can get away with.

But he’s a good man! And a father! Keep those pledges coming in, he’s busy saving lives with three videos a month!

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

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$1 - This basic level of support allows you to stay updated with occasional member-only announcements updated you on my work.

Read the manipulative words in that:

“basic level”

”allows”

”occasional”

Carefully worded so that prospective Patrons know this is entry level and the very least you can do for him. It’s like being a Kingdom Hall publisher. You get the honour of calling yourself a ~~Jehovah’s Witness~~ Lloyd Evans Patron but you are meant to believe that you could and should be doing more.

I’d reckon he has too many of these casual $1 patrons for his taste and he’s eager to coerce and shame them into higher levels.

The Zooms were likely done away with because they were sparsely attended and he cancelled most of them anyhow.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

by Simon in

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That was a great opportunity to count his blessings and get his shit in order, including helping his in-laws financially and contributing to a stable home life

Even JWs deserve their own privacy and to worship their God in peace. Not only were they housing a vocal apostate, he was operating a lucrative antiJW business out of their home! Imagine that… their ideals and beliefs, however misguided, were completely contradicted and ridiculed by their son-in-law whose avowed mission was to burn their religion to the ground. It’s like me moving into my granny’s home - the same woman who thinks I am demonised because I used to be into tarot cards.

Here’s the rub - Lloyd stated several times that the in-laws were dependent upon him. That’s bad enough, but did they know that Lloyd was largely funded by apostate exJWs who gave their money to him so he could take down their religion? Imagine this money trail - Joe Apostate from Kansas City pledges money to Lloyd Evans through Patreon and part of this goes to Dijana’s mother’s new dress to wear to the Kingdom Hall? Were the in-laws getting money from filtered down through Dijana from apostate donations - and somehow they ended up in the Worldwide Kingdom Hall fund? Wouldn’t that be the shit.

This is why Apostasy-for-hire is such a bad fucking idea.

Having gotten a new lease on life, he built a brand that provided him with more money than he should have known what to do with.

I don’t believe for a second that he ever thought of allowing his family an equal share in his gains. He made a killing off the earthquake relief fund that even a Scientology blogger wrote an article about - complete with a link to Jabba the Hutt’s PayPal. Lloyd even stated that what they had received was more than enough to purchase a home and had to ease off the request for donations. Of course it was largely funded off the wife and two kids - them playing a large part in the emotional blackmail of it all. But the indication was that they had enough.

Lloyd, never one to keep quiet about his plans, was immediately tweeting about buying a home in Istria and how he didn’t want his girls to grow up in a dump like Sisak. (Spoiler alert - they still are four years and many donations later)

But they never bought the home in Istria. Indeed in his second letter (we have to start quoting this as 2 Lloyd - New Testament style) he dangled the carrot of resuming the search for the home in Istria. Which means at some point they stopped looking- yet he had the money for it.

Why? It didn’t serve his immediate purpose to throw all his chips into that pot, especially when living a double life. I believe that him buying his own place in Zagreb was part of his open relationship plan. It was in his interest to keep her impoverished and having no future except through him.

This is why he was so arrogant about the entire thing. He held the purse strings and she was at his mercy.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

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I often think about the pre-marriage Dijana and those three young pioneer need-greater's in competition for her hand.

So.. you have 4 British brothers - all MTS grads - in competition for the hand of a highly sought after Croatian pioneer sister. And how does one woo a pioneer sister? Tout your own creds, and by that I mean “spirituality” and position within Jehovah’s Organisation. And since this is Lloyd, who is always congratulating and bestowing upon himself high honours, he went a bit overboard with it and embellished many things about himself and his background. Throw in a few self penned ditties on guitar about the righteousness of Jehovah God and His Organisation, and you have the perfect storm.

Well, not that perfect since Lloyd Evans was a socially awkward man with a Muppet nose.

Now is when you have to wear the Lloyd Evans cap and reason through the rest. How does he pull ahead of the other three? By elimination of course. He’ll badmouth and spread malicious gossip and rumours about the others to make them seem not as spiritual. Perhaps he ratted on one for blasting Eminem in the car during field service. Juvenile shit. It’s the same thing he does to other apostates - they are harming the cause - and he is the one who is doing the most good. That’s right, when Mike talked about seeing penises in WT literature, he was bringing reproach upon ~~Jehovah~~ apostates. Yet when Lloyd writes extensively about his own penis, it’s all for educational purposes.

This is why the flight to Croatia just doesn't make sense.

She had a reason not wanting to be in the UK anymore and keep in mind she was at this time a very zealous JW woman. Her world revolved around the Kingdom Hall. She didn’t want a piece of the Wilmslow or Bramhall congregations anymore.

What did he do in the UK that everyone (Dijana, her parents, Evans Sr.) was in complete agreement that it was best for him to move to a country where he knew not a word of the language and had extremely poor job prospects in a rural locality outside Sisak?

To the point where they voluntarily became dependents of two relatively impoverished Croatians - all because Lloyd sexted a woman who was totally in her 20s?

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

by Simon in

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When she changes her mind and he blows up, it's an attempt to intimidate her and put her back in her place.

It worked. It’s a miracle she didn’t belong to the 99% of females worldwide who would have had his shit on the kerb once he said he’s going to Thailand after sending her an incredibly abusive letter.

Both made poor life choices, for which they are paying the consequences for at this very moment. I would argue that she’s bearing the most difficult burden of all - raising two young girls by herself in rural Croatia with practically no prospect of getting herself a local job that will improve her quality of life. At least he can drown his misery with some rum and coke (and coke) and pretend the woman who just left wasn’t just given €100 for the trouble.

Her mistake was ever believing in his grift and that it was so golden even Jabba the Hutt couldn’t fuck it up. Plus - never give Pedo Pete two children to manipulate. One quote of hers from that first letter sticks out to me and that is her admission that through 15 years “of lying” something never felt right.

Well, duh. Still in the honeymoon period and he won’t quit sexting teens.

Hmmm wonder what else he was lying about for 15 years? Doesn’t sound like it was 3 to 4 years. Perhaps that’s why he hated Bo Juel so much during the AAWA launch in 2013-2014. I can picture it now: in a lively Tucson bar he makes eye contact with an attractive young woman who then makes her way to Bo.

Insanely jealous, he then claims Bo was hitting on Dijana.

I actually reached out to Bo about that. He laughed and said Dijana was a sweet gal, but wasn’t his type. He was only being talkative and friendly.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

by Simon in

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Truly fitting that the Croatian court keeps on using the initials “VD” in a case initiated by Lloyd Evans.

Problem is I think most people assume the law works the way English common law does. Eastern Europe is a whole different game, still rife with bureaucracy and corruption. In Jabba the Hutt’s case, it’s more like bureaucracy and disinterest. It is not that there isn’t a judge eager to throw this bullshit out, think of it as a folder in the middle of a huge pile of folders on someone’s desk who is only in the office 2 or 3 days a week. It will work its way to the top eventually and there won’t be a second thought about dismissing it and closing the case.

He’ll go out with a whimper, a tiny last gasp of enthusiasm. Much like Cara pronounced Sara experienced with the big man himself.

If he’s gay he would have already said so and tried desperately to paint his critics as homophobes. Not saying the guy’s completely straight - I mean how can you look at someone like Dijana and think: “Damn I want her up the ass so badly. Nothing else, just gotta have that ass”.

Has to be some weird & pathetic kink like him dressing up as Darth Vader and sticking a plastic lightsaber up Han Solo’s ass.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

by Simon in

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uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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While we’re at it, here’s a question for an elder:

If a wife discovered a sext from another woman on her husband’s phone, shouldn’t she be questioned per the guidelines in the Sheparding the Flock book and brought before the committee to bring testimony? She’s a witness to the crime, and certainly they would want to know if it was the first time he’d done this (it wasn’t), the contents of the sext, and even details of their sex life…

For all of Lloyd’s protestations about how blowback to his affairs hurt his family, it’s quite odd that when describing his humiliation and grief in his JCs (all in his article, his book, and even in his letter to Dijana), he says nothing about her humiliation in being forced to talk to the elders about this.

Two possibilities come to mind, and they could both be true at the same time:

Dijana had left him and went to Croatia. She declined to be interviewed by the UK elders and told them she was being counselled by the brothers back in Sisak regarding her husband’s infidelity.
Lloyd’s JC had little or nothing to do with the sexting he claimed it was about. He got caught doing something else and his wife wasn’t a first hand witness to it, thus she didn’t need to be questioned.

As for the timeline, I think she left and quite possibly didn’t even return. If she did, it was only to help him move. Lloyd spent some time in Croatia attempting to woo her back and that was where the “discussions” occurred. It could have been her primary condition that he return alone and clean up the mess he made. During this time away, he lost his job and was close to being evicted for unpaid rent. This would explain how he seemed to get out of his lease so easily (he had already broken it by non-payment) and also the extensive debt he occurred. Another reason why Croatia was the better option was because no one would rent to them again.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

by Simon in

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Arguably this whole thing blew up because LE had zero sympathy for somebody who had expressed suicidal thoughts in response to his videos.

It was his “I’m Taking a Break” video along his cryptic social media posts which hinted at his breakdown that contributed to Adam (Fade to Ex) attempting suicide. Not putting that all on Lloyd - Adam was already clinically depressed and shunned. But in true Lloyd fashion, he was the one who brought up that WhatsApp exchange with Kim on the livestream and quoted her as telling him if he couldn’t be more circumspect about what he tweets, he needed “to get the fuck off social media”. Of course Lloyd thought that made him look like the wronged party when in fact Kim was dead-on in telling him that considering Adam’s suicide attempt.

It sounds like he wasn't above using his wife's trauma over her brother's suicide to maintain control over her.

Her brother didn’t commit suicide. Jabba the Hutt did hint at his death though in his abusive letter when going over how paranoid she was and listing the reasons. Something about electricity and how he understood why she was paranoid. My guess is he was electrocuted.

The very fact that he sought to use her brother’s death in illustrating how paranoid she was in a letter that brutally gaslighted her is vintage Lloyd. And the reason why she was paranoid? Dijana had the absolute gall to worry about her contracting STDs from him! His genitals were perfectly fine, Lloyd assured her. Never a thought for how she might be feeling - he just had to start picking up hookers and dates in the family car and that bitch wasn’t letting him.

For those still inclined to think Lloyd was suicidal during that time period - read BOTH those letters - before he went to Thailand and then the very day after she informed him she wanted a divorce. That was a man obsessed with getting what he wanted - instant sexual gratification with sex workers and his insistence upon an open marriage arrangement where he actually thought it was a compromise to come off dating apps but still visit prostitutes.

Imagine that - after his wife of 15 years tells him she wanted a DIVORCE because he was unfaithful to her with prostitutes, his solution was to promise to come off dating apps (trust him!) and to still see sex workers. It’s like a hopeless drug addict in an effort to save his marriage saying he’ll quit cannabis and drinking, just as long as he gets his regular fix of crystal meth.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

by Simon in

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uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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Lloyd’s huge counterpoint to all this is that people who have dropped support have a JW Mindset of judgmentalism and even some sort of Puritanical view of sex. To this I reply that the opposite is true: People who are still supporting Jabba the Hutt despite all the revelations suffer from a JW leftover - the “good vs. evil” logical fallacy. They have the same viewpoint as they had with the org - “the Brothers aren’t perfect! But look at all the GOOD they have done!”

You’ll find the same logic uttered by Lloyd’s remaining supporters. Many fully admit that Lloyd fucked up but they will reason away that the good far outweighs the bad.

It doesn’t. Not by any stretch. The “good” has been reduced to trifle of videos every month with frequent illnesses that prevent him from meeting his Patreon promises. Also the man’s been a wrecking ball and a drain on the entire community since he arrived. He’s slandering people in a frivolous lawsuit that he has abandoned as “criminal defendants”.

Lloyd grew his business before in no small part because people were led to believe that him and Dijana were a “paycheque to paycheque” type of family and that those girls needed to be fed. He even complained that he had to borrow money to get his daughter a haircut, as if it weren’t his responsibility in the first place. Remember the traffic Croatian earthquake everyone in the world remembers where the in-law’s chimney was damaged? Lloyd cleaned up on donations and lived for a month or more in a coastal villa. A lot of that was out of sympathy for the family.

That has all been wiped out. He doesn’t have the “I need to take care of my family!” argument anymore - esp after he abandoned them in such dramatic fashion. He’s either a divorceé or soon to be one and a non-custodial parent of the children.

He could and should be careful with that, but he’s always posting pics and videos of him out and about. He hasn’t been to any meetup or event in years and has been reduced to an isolated asshole hardly anyone dares to publicly make known that they have met him.

Except Jana - bless her. And that Jay the Comedian guy whose routine is only a step above Lloyd’s.

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Lloyd Evans Patreoff May 2024

by DerekMoors in

time for this month's patreoff!

the fat one's numbers seem to be leveling off a bit, but we all know someone with his gravitational pull can't keep up momentum for long.. i made up another chart and used 356 for april because that's where he was on the 2nd.

also, this time last year was when he put out his "things are bad and i don't just mean what i look like naked" video and got a +187 bump.

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Congrats Ozzie. Save a glass for me